RE: Forwarded mail....

Rizzolo Angela (
Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:37:57 -0400

Hello to all. I felt compelled to respond to all the messages below.
Unfortunately, I never received the original message posted by Marie

As a program specialist for the Women's Bureau of the Department of
Labor I feel the need to bring in a larger picture - that of the labor
market and indices for future occupations. We can all agree that
women are commonly in the lowest pay spectrum for reasons which all of
you already know. It is important that we provide all young students
men and women with the information of how the workforce is shaping
itself for the 21st century.

Women have a huge stake in present and future jobs because we are the
fastest growing labor pool. All of the fastest growing occupations
are HIGH WAGE, HIGH SKILL occupations. This will require a BA or

I agree with Ms. Honeycutt that I do not believe the Women's Wire
magazine is trying to pigeon whole women into those careers only. I do
believe that perhaps the wording was not what we all would want and
that is gender neutral. We as a society need to get away from the
stereo-types drilled into us by media and education of what gender
belongs with which job.
While, I wish we had more role models for young children to see in all
types of occupations, I believe we sell ourselves short that women are
truly making an impact in the way jobs are now perceived. It is
however education which propels young girls into these HIGH WAGE, HIGH
SKILL jobs. I believe that is what Women's Wire was trying to
accomplish. Expose the facts to ALL children on the types of
occupations there are out there, will they be the fastest growing in
the next 10 years and more importantly - will it pay you and
economically - self-sufficient wage?

I have a "Hot Jobs for the 21st Century" pamphlet available. It is
six pages long.
e-mail me your address and phone number and I will be happy to get
copies out to you - FREE.

Angela Rizzolo
U.S. Department of Labor - Women's Bureau
J.F.K. Federal Building
Boston, MA 02203

From: Gaea Honeycutt[]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 1997 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....

First off, I'm sorry to include practically the entire message, but I
felt it important. I don't see why anyone should be upset with what
Women's Wire is doing. The careers listed below reflect a variety of
disciplines including technology, health care, art dealing and
marketing. What is the problem here? Is everyone assuming that
Wire is suggesting these--and only these--careers for women. There is
indication that they are trying to genderize careers. It seems to me
that they are looking to profile successful women in various
beginning with what is suggested below. Now, suggesting careers that
would help Women's Wire expand its coverage or a new title is
appropriate; but attacking this writer and Women's Wire and becoming
outraged because they have not chosen the exact same careers or
you would is short-sighted and illogical.

I myself would encourage Ms. Juilland to consider corporate law,
publishing, journalism, engineering, and local politics as areas for
future focus. Also, although a sex equity coordinator is not
my first choice, someone who works in a field or combined fields of
social equity would be at the top of my list. Finally, perhaps there
would not be conflict if the title wasn't "Careers For Women." Would
others be more satisfied if it was called "Profile on Careers" or
such thing?

Whew. That was a tad long. I may not write much anymore, but when I
it's a doooooozy. Please forgive me.


P.S. Human Resource Manager: Try Chris Connors at EDC (617-969-7100)

Gaea Honeycutt
"I recently had my problems on the run, but now they've re-grouped,
are making another attack."

Barbara J Tavares wrote:
> See the bottom message in this correspondence.
> This ProfNet query was forwarded to me--no doubt to raise my blood
> pressure. Please, anyone who has some material on-line, in a fetch
> file, etc., that will tell the writer that careers don't come in
> please send it to Juilliand at her e-mail address.
> would be greatly appreciated. I hate to think anyone with
influence, such
> as a magazine, can still limit the occupational options of any
> students, male or female.

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:58:23 -1000
> From: Donne Florence <>
> To: Barbara J Tavares <>
> BT--No need to respond to this ProfNet query, but I wanted to alert
you to
> the existence of this online magazine. On the other hand, if you can
> her to some good material that will introduce her to the concept of
what a
> Bad Concept "Careers for Women" is ...
> What if I write and tell her about another career she could explore
in a
> future column--sex equity coordinator?
> DF
> **9. CAREERS FOR WOMEN - WOMEN'S WIRE. For a bi-monthly
> feature I am looking to interview 2 younger (under 30)
> women. Here are the careers that I will be covering in the
> next few months: human resource manager (need leads by
> Monday), promotions director, photographer, social worker,
> health care technician, librarian, fashion designer, MIS
> specialist, art dealer, computer animator. I am looking for
> women in states other than California and New York.
> Women's Wire is an online magazine with an audience of
> about 3 million. (>>> Marie-Jeanne Juilland
> E-mail: [T::7/21:2447]

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