Re: Legality of single-sex education -Reply

Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:28:22 -0600

Mt niece put this in an interesting way. She was one of the 1st
generaltion to be integrated w/ p.e. I'll never forget her assessment of
the results of being in an integrated class: "Hey, Peggy," said the then
young teen, "I discovered that not all the boys are jocks- and that not all
the girls are weaklings." Go for it, Roger!!!


>>> Roger Crabtree <> 03/16/98 11:04pm >>>

I teach middle-school physical education to classes made up of males
and females. As we prepare to schedule students for next year's
classes, I am again struggling with the gender make-up of my classes. It
is very difficult to allow for equal success and participation when a
class is overwhelmingly made up of stong-willed and strong bodied
males. An earlier comment, "to call in the National Guard" if necessary to
make educational gender equity work made me smile as it is near the
I am in the trenches here and requesting back-up...please suggest
books, summer conferences, inspiring kicks in the pants, or any other
ammo. Please spare me long philosophical or legal debates - give me the
short and dirty version of gender equity in PE as that is all I have time to
"Roger Crabtree" <>

Tim Flinders wrote:
> > Linda: I think the single sex academy experiment should be
allowed to
> continue without court challenges so that we can study them and find
> just what effect they do have. If they turn out to benefit both genders,
> than I think the single-sex option should be allowed within the public
> school setting in ways that do not violate Title IX.
> > I am not so sure that I share the AAUW's concerns (and I am an
> member) that single sex education would result in the disproportionate
> allocation of resources towards the all-male schools that was true in
> pre-Title IX era. These schools would be under a level scrutiny (from
> the public and the state) that simply didn't exist in those days.
> > I'd also like the debate on single-gender schools to shift from
> all-or-nothing concerns that characterize the current discussion, to
> looking at ways within our current mixed-gender system for creating
> opportunities (daily, weekly, occaisionally at least) when boys and girls
> can be in single-sex settings. Having taught gifted elementary students
> twenty years, and once or twice (by serendipity) under single gender
> circumstances, I believe strongly that there are defininte advantages
> both boys and girls to be with their own gender, at least part of the
> I wish there were easier ways to accomodate this, short of total
> educational reform.
> > As an educator, I continue to work within the traditional
> setting for equity reforms. But were I the parent of a daughter, and had
> the wherewithal, I'm not sure I'd send her to a public mixed gender
> For whatever reasons (I haven't looked carefully yet at the recent
> report), women from all-girls schools achieve higher and find their way
> more readily into positions of influence and authority, than their
> mixed-gender counterparts. Were I a parent of a daughter, at this point
> time anyway, I'd be looking (regrettably) for a good all-girls school.
> > Tim Flinders <>

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