Re: Resocializing boys

KIM (dawn1@flex.net)
Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:06:58 -0600


I rarely post to listservs, but always read each message and am usually
fascinated by the communication. However, in regards to boys
socialization, I just have to mention that although I agree with counseling
programs that address both boys and girls counseling, I think part of
today's societial gender problems stem from parental upbringing (maybe
based on societal expectations?) of their boys (and girls). As a parent of
both boys (now teenagers and grown) and a girl (pre-K), I have always
strove to educate my boys in a different manner. For example, my boys
share in all housekeeping duties, can cook and sew, and have been taught
how to treat both genders equally. They have many friends who are girls,
in addition to girlfriends of the traditional kind. My daughter is also
raised in a similar manner to embrace some typical male roles (as well as
female).

I think role modeling should start young. Boys and girls should see their
parents treat each other and everyone else as equals. If they don't, well,
bad attitudes occur, eg., assertative treatment of boys. For example, here
in Texas, many males show this "macho" model; they hunt, fish, swear a bit,
chew tobacco, drink beer, and generally treat women as unequals and men as
superior. What kind of role model is THAT for our future women and men?

Schools and/or counselors can only do some much; it must stem and be
supported from the HOME environment, and also, from society in general.

Kim <dawn1@flex.net>

At 06:15 PM 3/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Bob, thanks for a well-rounded comment. I have been disturbed that here
>in Sonoma County (CA) there have been pullout counseling programs for
>girls, but none for boys. Parents are not contacted about the pullouts,
>nor are the "counselors" in fact qualified in any special way. The
>assumption is that somehow the girls are defectively unassertive; but
>nothing is done about the boys' behavior that suppresses girls'
>assertion.
> What kinds of programs should be provided to the boys?
> What kinds of training should be given the counselors of such
programs?
> Should the programs actually be coed, under Title IX, and for mutual
>learning?
> What kinds of community programs should be ongoing?
> What role modeling and other types of learning most reduce violent
>behavior in boys? For example, does doing child care help?
> What gains for teacher control of the classroom can be anticipated
from
>such programs? What do we do with the teachers who also need to be
>resocialized?
>
>(for starters) Linda Purrington, Title IX Advocates
<lpurring@earthlink.net>
>
>
>TIGHE@APS.EDU wrote:
>>
>> Robert McIntosh wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with the premise that boys are being negatively socialized in
>> > many ways. What has struck me about the school shooting incidents is
>> > the sense of entitlement that males (and particularly white males) are
>> > given in our culture. You referred to it as a lack of empathy, but I
>> > think that seeing it as an expression of feelings of entitlement give it
>> > a different twist.
>>
>> The concept of "sense of entitlement" I see as similar to Linda
>> Purrington's concet of "property", and both are important in
>> understanding not only the Arkansas shootings, but other forms
>> of male violence against women.
>>
>> There are also other aspects of male socialization at work here.
>> One is the male tendency to externalize problems--if a man is
>> having a problem, he tends to blame other people, not himself.
>> This combines disastrously with a third male tendency which has
>> been reinforced by our entertainment media and by increased easy
>> access to powerful weapons, and that is the tendency to react
>> violently to perceived mistreatment--boys are actually encouraged
>> to fight in response to problems with others.
>>
>> All three can cause males to react violently to perceived threats,
>> which includes the "threat" implied in loss of traditional male
>> privileges, not only the loss of their "property".
>>
>> In response to the question "What about the boys?",
>> one of the answers should be that boys should get their own
>> special training in not being so macho, and not investing so
>> much of their ego in male role playing and dominance (this would
>> apply also to the parents of boys who ask that question because
>> their lives are tied up in their son's progress and privileges).
>>
>> -- Bob
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