Re[4]: Educational brainstorming -Reply

Marty Henry (
Tue, 02 Jun 98 09:13:11 -0700

These are really broad statements, John. Accepted by whom? Does
everyone have these feelings, or just the power structure? I have just
about completed the book recommended on this list, "When Work Doesn't
Work Anymore" and this is discussed in length. I think the interesting
point is that all of us have to change our perception of success.
Women have begun to realize that men's values in the workplace don't
always work for them and the men who have opted to have the women as
the primary wage earner are facing discriminatory practice that is a
result of these same values. Women can't want what men have in the
workplace without sacrificing some of who they are. Men must reorient
their work ethic to what reflects what they really value...underneath
their PC ethic. It's not men or women who are messed up, but the
system we work under.

I am not explaining this well, but would recommend you take a look at
the author's insights into the changes we all need to make to allow
men to interact with their children on a daily basis in a way that
enhances both of them.


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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Educational brainstorming -Reply
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Date: 5/29/98 11:18 AM

Okay, this is getting way beyond the track I meant it to go, but if child
care workers are in the same boat, then they should be paid more.
Unfortunately, greater pay means greater fees, and a lot of single women
are going to then have to "ante up" in order to pay those child care
workers more.
Here's what I was trying to ask. We have two couples, both without
children. One in which the woman stays home and slaves there while the man
slaves over a fourty hour job, and one in which the opposite happens. Now,
what do you think about both couples. It would seem to me that the man who
stayed home would be seen as somewhat of a "failure" because he has to
depend on the wife to earn the money by society and by our culure, whereas
the woman staying at home would be accepted more.
,dP""d8b, John Meyer

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